Ship It Conversations: Ryan Packer of BambooHR on Why CTOs Are Coding Again, Building a Software Factory, AI Straining CI/CD, Protecting HR Data, Mid-Career and Junior Engineers, and Why Every Engineer Gets a Team of Agents

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This is a guest conversation episode of Ship It Weekly , separate from the weekly news recaps. In this Ship It Conversations episode, I talk with Ryan Packer about why a CTO is writing code again, what happens to CI/CD when every engineer runs a fleet of agents, and who trains junior engineers when AI can fix the bugs. Ryan is the CTO at BambooHR and a former VP of Engineering at Adobe. He's watched engineering organizations change from Omniture to Adobe to BambooHR, and he says he's spent more time coding this year than in the rest of his career combined. We start with why. Ryan will never write production code for his team again, but he wants to use the same tools and learn the same techni…